Driver uses insurance company’s own rules against them, saves thousands of dollars after crash dispute: 'Maybe we can find a work around'

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  • "So, insurance company, you won't give me a letter with a clean driving record?"

    I was grumbling about insurance companies in another thread, and led me to this memory.... My wife was driving in Toronto many (many) years ago.
  • At an intersection, she waited at the red light, and then the advance "green left arrow" lit up and she started turning left.
  • Other vehicles coming the opposite direction also had the same "green left arrow" for them to turn left.
  • It's pretty standard stuff, everyone's been through those while driving. Unfortunately, the driver coming straight the other direction wasn't paying attention.
  • He saw the vehicle next to him start moving (turning left), so he did too (going straight), through the red light, and crashing into my wife.
  • So I call the insurance company. I'm thinking this is pretty straight forward; my wife was legally turning left, buddy ran a red light and hit her.
  • Nay, nay, they tell me... my wife was turning left, so regardless of right of way, she's deemed equally at fault.
  • She should have anticipated someone would run the red light and waited to make sure he was going to obey the law.
  • I grumbled, but they stood firm. That ruling was horseshit, but it wasn't a fight I was going to win.
  • The damage was mostly cosmetic to the side of the car; $4k to repair, but the car was perfectly derivable and wasn't unsafe.
  • It was also an older second vehicle we rarely drove anyways. So, instead of getting it repaired and watching my rates subsequently go up 100% for the next five years, we shrugged and told the insurance company that we wouldn't claim it and take care of it ourselves.
  • Fast forward nine months, and we're moving somewhat unexpectedly to another province. My insurance company doesn't have jurisdiction in that province, so I need to change companies.
  • I do, and new company wants a copy of my clean history from old insurance company.
  • insurance company, When I contact old the female employee at the counter tells me that they can't give me a clean driving record because we \were\ in an at-fault accident, so they will have to tell the new insurance company that.
  • I give them my best "are you fricking kidding me" look. She refuses to budge. "Rules are rules, and it would be dishonest".
  • Rules are rules? OK, I go home and look up the company's rules. It seems that I have one year to process a claim.
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  • I come back an hour later, and smile at the nice lady. I tell her that if I'm going to get held liable for the accident on my record, I well might as well fix it.
  • I'll have it fixed, get a rental car throughout, and basically run the repair bill as high as I legally can..
  • And then I'll send a notice to the company head office explaining what I did and why I did it, advising them that I admired your integrity (reading her nametag "Ms...
  • Karen... Smith...") in not providing the letter, even though you cost your company over $5000 in unnecessary expenses.
  • got a long pause. "Well, maybe we can find a work around". And ten minutes later, she ended up providing me a letter, stating that I had a "claims-free driving history" with the old insurance company.
  • Not accident free, claims free. That satisfied the new insurance company, and life went on. Man, insurance companies are the devil.

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